Oct. 6, 2022

The Black Cat Bones

The Black Cat Bones

On this episode Brian is joined by Gareth and Casey from The Black Cat Bones.

 

The acclaimed South African band released their latest album on 29th of July.

The core of the band is comprised of Andre Kriel, Kobus de Kock, Gareth Bunge & Casey Rothman. Founded in 2007, The Black Cat Bones are arguably South Africa’s hardest working band, renowned for their captivating live performances that put them in a class of their own, drawing on a widespread and loyal fan base.

 

With a back catalogue of four previous self-released albums since 2009, including the SAMA Award ‘’Best Rock Album’’ winner ‘’Beatpiller’’ (2013), the band has continued to evolve both as songwriters and in studio. Signing to leading indie label Just Music in 2020, a significant fresh take on the production effort in association with the label and producer Mathew Fink at Atomic Studios, has seen the band rise to an unprecedented level in the making of their new album ‘’Book of Miriam’’.

 

Tune in to hear all about:

  • The Book of Miriam Album.
  • The formation of The Black Cat Bones and how Gareth and Casey joined the band.
  • Concert experience highlights.
  • Future plans and much much more.

 

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Transcript

Participant #1:
Hi, we're the Black Cat Bones from South Africa, and you are listening to the concerts that made us

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is everybody in? Is everybody in our show.

Participant #1:
Welcome to the podcast Conscious that made us interviews and stories. Hey o's, found the bus we love taking you back when it all went down the greatest laugh show than the cheery crowd sound it's Compton contest that made us Comptonatus.com. On this episode, I'm chatting with Garrett and Casey from Black Cap ons a great blues rock band from South Africa. They've got funk, feeling, groove and much, much more. They released their latest album, Book of Miriam, on July 29, and you're gonna hear all about it. So, without further ado, let's get on with the show.

Participant #1:
And from here on out now wash your hands. Greet your loved ones dear God. For your plans gather your belongings while you made and say goodbye now say goodbye to the light of this kingdom got a lot more to say gotta ask forgiveness leave me by the hide and get away kiss your friends now one last time look up to the sky and say goodbye from here on out we all go to sleep shut our eyes down a lot of

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can't come

Participant #1:
casey and Gareth. You're very welcome to concert statmes. How are you doing, Brad? I'm glad to have you guys here. Now, we opened the show with your song Lungs. It's off your latest album. Would you like to tell us about?

Participant #1:
Definitely one of our heavier tracks of the album. We tried to go sort of fresh direction. This album, compared to the previous albums, added a little bit more of our softer, romantic side. And I guess we are still the blackout Bones. We can still throw down. Yeah. And the final fact is that this riff for Lungs was actually written about four or five years ago. Myself and Andrea still jammed it out way back when, and it never kind of suited the album we're working with on the time, at the time. And since Casey joined in, we revamped it. And I became this epic funk, rock and roll banger. Yeah. As I mentioned, it's from your latest album, Book of Miriam. What was the process like from conception up to release? Rushed. You never seem to have enough bloody time for these things. And we set ourselves a deadline, and we stuck to that deadline. Luckily, I guess, in a weird way, we had lockdown, right, Gary? So we could only bite. Right. This oven, that is pretty much anything that we were capable of doing in three years besides sneaky potty or gig. Yeah, the process itself was great. Gary and I actually live tracked this whole album, which was epic. I always wanted to do that. And Gary played on the coolest vintage tip. Tell us about that, Gary. Yeah, man. We found this epic, like, broadcast kit. It suited the vibe of the songs that you're going for. And the sound and our producer Matt Matthew thinks. And the way we recorded it was absolutely phenomenal. We really catch the rawness of it and you can really hear the old sound. It's difficult to explain, but you can hear the old drum sound in it. Yeah. Let's say vintage tones, I suppose you could say correct. Yeah, correct

Participant #1:
as well. That's the first time I've ever done it. And there's mistakes in there. If you're living close enough, you can hear them. And I dig that. I thought that was really cool. The pressure was on Gary and I was in there for, like, three days waiting. Two days, actually. A lot. Yeah, two days. Two days. So the rest of the guy using the band got off easy, is what you're saying. Yeah, something I've read. Yeah, exactly. I think Andrea was in studio the most, actually. I think we got off easy. For anybody that's never heard you guys before, something stands out. It stood out for me anyway, is, you know, funk, groove and feeling. Those three things really come across in the songs. How did you find your sound? Yeah, I think that's kind of sound really, like, came in as Casey joined the bank because Case has been with us for about four years now. In Case. He comes from a big funk background, if you can call it that, and just use natural flavor combined with the more rocky stuff combining those two, this is the product that we got. Everyone's sound kind of, like, comes through the album and you can get these people but together. It's a bit more of a like you said, funk blend of a sound. Yeah. I think Gary is also low key. Like, the best hip hop drummer in South Africa because it's like simple grooves. I think that is simplicity. Let's just put it that way. I think all the instruments has really come something that we focus on was just and I know Andrea was fanatical about this, but was just not overdoing anything. We didn't have to shred a solo for six minutes. Everyone worked really hard to just simplify and

Participant #1:
at least that was the attempt. Maybe there was a little bit of indulgence here. The whole thing was, like, how to play less. Like, learning how to play less. That makes sense. And I think groove and funk and soul and stuff like that, it lives there. It lives in that minimalist sort of vibe. And I think everyone just pulled out all the stops on this one. Pretty much. Yeah. Well, it turned out perfectly anyway. But how has the reception been from the fans? Phenomenal. The launch has been epic so far. We've talked on a bunch of radio stations down in South Africa, done some international interviews like this one. Yeah. And we're really getting booked with some festival lineups that we would have never been booked for in the past. It's like, really open doors in a different sort of genre of festivals as well. So that's a great thing. That must be exciting. Would you be apprehensive or nervous now about playing such large geeks? No. Gary, would you be nervous?

Participant #1:
I'm sweating on the inside, butterflies on the inside. One question I love asking bands. When you're after releasing a good few albums and it's time to come up with a new album, how do you find the sweet spot of it's? Something new, but it's familiar enough to your sound that you keep older fans engaged, but you can find newer fans as well? A great question. That was this whole album. Yeah, absolutely. Once again, we go back to bringing everyone's own sound and combining it and with Casey involved now as well, it still sounds like Black at Bones, but it sounds like a mature Black at Bones. It sounds like really like the Black at Bones now. I would make anything more mature. The youngster for the band obviously made the most what we also strive to do. And again, Andrejay, he would immediately be talking a whole lot about this. Right. But we really did set out with a goal at the start of the album and I think credit to Matthew Fink, our producer, for just keeping that golden thread, that one, through all of the songs. And we aim for that, but didn't necessarily hit it in every song. And Matt is just a genius for weaving everything together into the end result, which, in my opinion, came up one year. Yeah. So the struggle is real, to answer your question. But I think having a clear goal having a clear goal in writing with intents and jamming it out with intents and a goal in mind really helped. And I think we can think just music at our record label because if it went for them, we wouldn't have sort of I don't think we would have wouldn't have forced ourselves so specifically into that golden trade. Yeah. And you guys have the title of one of South Africa's hardest working bands. How do you go about getting a title like that? Wow. I think that, like, that came sure. That comes right from the beginning of the band's existence. At that point, it was like everyone had to get in order to make an income, it was like you had to do it. If you didn't do it, you don't eat, man. Now, obviously, everyone's got a bit of, like a side hustle going in here, but we still, like our goal is to play as many shows a week or a month as possible. We literally just got back from a tour and we're leaving for a tour now, again in the next week or so. Most of the time we all love it and that's exactly what you want to do. And yeah, they go from there. There's no brakes. We just want to jam. We just started playing as easy top cover and I said, but I think they say, we got to get paid, man. I think that the Hard work. That title definitely comes from under in purpose. They are the founding members of the Backup. And like I said, they've put down 14 years. 15 years. 15 years. 15 years of hard grand. And I don't know if you've ever been to South Africa, but it's fucking enormous. It's so big. So what they did, what a lot of other bands weren't necessarily doing, especially at that scale, was driving everywhere. They toured all the places that no one used to go to and in these small towns in the middle of Santa Rica, the kids, they aren't exposed to any rock and roll or anyone because no one goes there. And what Andrea Curves did and the previous members of that compose was they went there. They went to all of the places nonstop. Every year they returned. So I think that title definitely comes from those early kilometers put in that way. Yeah. That's actually a great way to get exposure for the band and to get new fans as driving places that nobody else goes to. It's kind of hard to imagine in a country like Ireland because you could drive across the land and Brett of Ireland in about two and a half hours. It's actually South Africa is Brick. What did that take you guys?

Participant #1:
Maybe even close to 20, actually, if you do the full break. That's crazy. What's? The last day we went on was 6600K in three weeks. Jesus. Was that just driving or did you fly that's? Just driving. Just driving. Two cars. Five, six cars and drive. You must have a pretty good mechanic. Yeah, they live in Bracket. So we jump back to 2007 when the band was forming. Would you like to tell listeners a bit about how the Black Cap Ons came into existence? I actually asked Kirby the other day, gary, did you know our Crevice remembers meeting Andre? No. Okay. I have no idea. This is Jr. Singer for The Black. Advanced. Yeah. Which is one of these in the middle of nowhere town, South Africa. He eventually ends up moving to Pretoria many years later. He is a drummer at that time and a sound engineer. He hears about two guys, Andre being one of them. Andre Creel, the guitarist, was like a bunch here's about him and another guy that needed drummer for a gig that they put in together. So Curvus gets all the cash that he has together, gets the petrol, does the whole mission, gets to the rehearsal spot, sets up his drum song and so forth. And under Creole ditches on the jam session or whatever. So Grovers is super pissed off with this so called Andre Creel character, basically older grudge until finally meeting him and figuring out that he's a Lacquer. And then basically they slowed a band from that point onwards. So it actually comes from underfield ditching on a jam session, put it that way in many bands before finally forming Black episodes. And you guys, when did you come into the fold? I've been wow. I think yeah, we spoke about actually on Saturday. I've been with them for about seven years now. Close to seven years, at least seven years, yeah. The way I kind of got into the band was in my hometown. I used to like, run a little venue, like little music venue, which is Molten, a mountain town in the world, and actually got a connection by another friend of mine. He's also involved in bookings and stuff, and he said, yeah, you got to book the span, you got to keep this band to come through. So I was like, okay. Great, man. Eventually find a little gap when they're on tour at that point, heading down to one of the major cities, and I just made a connection like, man, do you want to stop over here jam a bit? Obviously, it's like a little bit of a stop over. So I kind of persuaded them on mom's great cooking as well.

Participant #1:
Became one of the super type of them. And at that point there was actually just the two of them. It was Andre and Curvus just doing an acoustic tour. And they were like the very next day was a gig, which was about 2 hours drive away from where I had them and they knew I was a drummer. Do you want to come jam the show with us the next day? So I was like, yeah, let's do this, man. So he ran through the tunes a couple of times and then I just went on to with him the next day. I love that. It's like, I'm not just going to book the band, I'm going to join the band.

Participant #1:
I'm the trouble now. And Casey, what about yourself

Participant #1:
in another band? Very odd little fun band called Straight Jackle. And we played gigs together. Straightjackle and Blackberries played geeks together quite a bit every now and then. And BlackBerry old basis. Chris Funerbolt joined the heaviest South African metal band in the world, paul, Virginia or Dania. How to pronounce? It impossible to pronounce, but they are epic and huge, like two other worlds. He had to leave the backup and I believe he put what was the story again? He gave two XP suggestions or something like that. Yeah. So myself and then Chris at the time, obviously now being in the rhythm section of the band, we like had to kind of fight through all the potential basis players. Who would we actually want? Eventually it came out to three options and then the final decision was actually

Participant #1:
and then the final decision came down to Casey. And then obviously I kind of like, put my head around, like, as a drummer who what I kind of like gel with the most, like, what kind of basis I gel with the most. And Casey and I was ready at the time. And then Casey got the call. The fun compelled you in case he was an easy decision. Did you jump? I love the bones for ages. So definitely one of my favorite South African bands, without a doubt. And we had played gigs together quite often before that, so I knew that everyone was two guys and it was no brainer. Brilliant. Brilliant. We'll jump into your own personal music history for a bit now, from concerts you've attended, what concerts would you say have made you guys what made you want to be musicians? Wow. That's a great question. What made you want to become a musician? What maybe the musician. I'm okay. Can you take it? I'm trying to think now. That was too long ago. I can't remember. Not ever. Once you be a musician, I can say. Great concerts that I've been to if you guys ever want to hear some cool shit. This one time was at a festival or we copyright in a questionable state of mind and caught this Israeli band called Takshran. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. Instrumental acid jazz madness. That's one of the cooler bands I've ever seen. Ever, ever loved. And still to this day, nothing has ever come close. And that might have been my state of mind, but it was definitely one of the concerts that changed the game for me. I never, ever viewed a concert the same way after that day. So check them out. Touch on super cool. What's your favorite concert? Gary I'm taking hold of quite a few, man, but, like, in terms of, like, drumming and, like, drumming, inspirations, man. One of the concert that really blew me away unexpectedly was the Dave Matthews Band watching them laugh. And obviously, I don't know if you guys know the court of both of the drummer for Dave Matthews, Ben, but he is phenomenal. Like, one of my favorite, favorite inspirations. And, like, funny enough, before that, I actually had one of his instructional DVDs at that point when DVDs were still around, and I was like, yes, man, I get this thing. I'm going to talk. Jamie I caught a Beaufortland watch the Give me, like, 6 hours. And I was like, the best. I watched the DVD twice and I kind of, like, threw it away. It was a little bit too hard. But anyway, a couple of years later, I got chance to watch it live and they actually blew me away, like, very unexpectedly. I was, like, absolutely, like, speechless. That is unexpected. Yeah. Jeez and from your own gig point of view, then, what gigs do you think have made you guys as a band? That is a good question. Yeah, it's quite tough because all our gigs are, like, so, so different. Like, we like we literally one day we'll go from playing, like, a massive festival stage in front of thousand people. And then the next day is like a small, intimate, acoustic show in front of like 50 people, you know? So it's like, man, you kind of take a bit of everything, like a bit of things from all the different shows and put them together. That's exactly why we love doing what we do. It's difficult to say, like, what I prefer, like, massive stage or like the small intimate stuff. Everything's about its amazing. I'm just getting flashbacks. Like PTSD flashbacks. Great gigs? No, they're all fucking great. Every single gig is important and great. If you have to pick a highlight, then one thing that has happened to you that you think is almost defining when it comes to gigs, then does anything stick out? Not a defining moment. But one moment that I'll never forget is it has nothing to do with the band itself. But as we're playing a show at a festival. Like one of the biggest festivals in the country. Out of the blue. A guy comes running on stage. But naked with a long ass piece of toilet paper hanging from his asshole and also being lit on the other end. So he's got like this long black tail coming out. Long tail of toilet paper that's being lit at the end. And he had to run as fuck and fuzz as he came across the thing in order to keep the flame away from his ass during the set. Like, obviously in the show we didn't even skip the beat, man. The show went on, but it was a defining moment.

Participant #1:
How did you not, like, just stop and be like, what the hell is that? That just shows you what level of professional gas he's the rock. Anything like that jump out for you, Casey? Yes, I'm having to filter some of my memories. Nothing particular is jumping at it and keeping on the same kind of rhythm. We'll flip it around. Is there a worst experience you guys have had on stage or at a gig and how did you overcome us?

Participant #1:
Gary? Yeah, man. I remember playing a show like, I won't name festivals or any specific person or whatever, but the moral story, we just got booked for the wrong lineup and the wrong crowd, and we started playing this heavy rock and roll barbs and it wasn't suitable. The crowd wasn't having it. And eventually it just turned. Literally. It started with one ice block flying over into where I was with the drum riser. Then there was a cup and there was a can and eventually thousands of ice blocks and cans just like, flying at us. We need to get off that stage right at that time. Oh, man. Rock and roll doesn't go down well in some communities, really? Even nowadays. You didn't expect that you were going into battle then when you began that geek. Absolutely not. I was like using a symbol as a shield. Oh, gosh, that is a pretty bad one. Yeah, the bushes are crazy. I had one in my head now until Gary said his one. I realized that I can't probably say faithful names and stuff I can talk about. Leave me. So we've heard the best. We've heard the worst. What do you guys think goes into making the ultimate stage or the ultimate performance for a band? I'd say definitely. Obviously, first of all, knowing what you're going to be doing, like knowing the songs. If you know the songs, if you're 100% comfortable the songs, you can kind of start adding more like a flamboyant flavor to it or adding some extra things. But the bear bone comes from knowing songs and playing the songs. Flipping well, that's my most important thing. I always like to make sure my playing is top notch all the time. And if I'm very comfortable with that, then I can think of, okay, cool. Let me do like a strict trick. Yeah. Like we'll add some visual aspects and funny, cool intros and outros of the sets case. What do you think? I agree with all of that. Yes. I think the reason that we can do it, and I think we do do it, is because we play so many gigs. We're like, well, practice when you stay on top of your game, like saying when you're practicing everyday and playing every day, it does make it much easier to put on a good show. Right. I think even before that, Bones was established as a live band, so everything was always worked out and live was taken into account with everything. So straight from the writing process is sort of where I think the source starts. Is that it's? They are like for arguments, like, if you enjoy the album, come and fucking see it live, I promise you ten times better. Actually. There's just something that we do live that cannot be captured or you have to be experienced. Even if you go take the dry recordings, the source is gone. And I'll give that credit mainly to Quivers. He is an excellent frontman and he ensnares people with he like puts a spell on people. I swear I've seen people stare into that guy's eyes. Like, you can see that they are gone, they're not there. I don't know what he does, but he's incredible from them. Yeah, I love that though. I'm always saying when you go to a gig personally me, anyway, I'm not going to hear a perfect recreation of the album. You know, I want that little bit of extra, you know, whether it's the banter with the crowd or even the mistakes, it all adds to the perfect stage show. Definitely. And Andre crew is the biggest sort of advocate for this, but if he can grab an extra guitarist that's hanging around backstage or whatever and bring him on for an impromptu solo or something like that, he's going to make it happen. Literally anyone that backstage will work them into the set list and off goes improvised gig. So I think that like you said, that's definitely an element of it. There must be surprise, right? Not meant to be the same thing. Not meant to be replicated. Exactly. Exactly. I'm just getting images now of like a lord of musicians backstage running and hide and suddenly

Participant #1:
there's Gary and our trap. Like this first festival in Hogsburg. Hogsburg is a beautiful tiny town on top of a mountain in South Africa, right? But it's like 900K away from us. They shut down the whole town for a blues festival. And at the final end of the night, gary and I were meant to be the band for all of these blues guitarists. And they shred Face Lord. Yeah, we're trying to kind of like how many times are we going to hear a woke up this morning in that set?

Participant #1:
Really? Yeah.

Participant #1:
Don't worry about it. Go to OxBack. As a band, what do you hope to achieve through your music?

Participant #1:
Money. I didn't realize we were being totally honest. No, I mean that in the best way actually though, right? If we can survive through just make having fun, then a fucking man. I don't see anything wrong with that. Because you simply must create music. It's too fun. Right? So if we can make a living off of it at the same time, what a pleasure. Why the fuck would you not do that multiple times? But I can't see any way it's got to be this way. One of them things that even if you could just make enough to pay your bills and then have fun playing music, that would do just fine. Look, during the world we also wouldn't be bad either. Take it. What about you, Gary? Yeah, I agree with Casey 100%. I also think like literally our next call will be literally to book for more international lineups. Hopefully see some amazing countries like Ireland itself that will be absolutely insane. I'd love to see that area. And they are literally like touring the world, man. Getting booked for lineups, playing our hot tub. There are two differences, right? That's what we want to achieve in order to keep on doing the thing. Right. I think perhaps the question you're asking is what do you achieve with the writing, with the music itself? That obviously has nothing to do with money. That's what I'm saying. You simply must. The reason that we get up in the morning and play the instruments that we play and create is because you must. You are compelled to by other forces go that way. If I don't play baseball, become the grumpiest asshole that ever lived. If we don't have a gig, check under a cure. If we don't have a gig, he is the grumpiest person and that shit is unexpectable. So we are just getting it out. It can't stay in. And I think if you go listen to the album. What a Blatant theme is also being positive. You're not putting out negative shit, right? They are lowkey like super positive messages. Like every single one of those fucking songs maybe with the exception of Mayor which is just madness. But I think that is also a cool thing that I really enjoy. It's just not there's enough bullshit negativity going on in the world. We don't have to add to it. We keep that fucking like funky rock and lack positive somewhat. Even though sad as fuck, they are still on a positive note. Yes. Positive vibes. You made me think of something there when you said you're grumpy as hell when you can't get it out or you can't play a gig. But how do you deal with the feeling of say on a Friday night or Saturday night? You're on stage in front of a massive crowd, everyone is digging your music, then the following morning you're getting up and it's kind of back to reality. That's the fucking real thing. Yeah. The post tour depression, man. Even like we can maybe call it the post gate depression. I think just to live off the positivity that they came from the night before and know that or strive to recreate it at the very next show if it happens to be the next day or the next week. Like you always try to push yourself to be better and really like get that same sort of energy that is going on, recreate it and some really make it even more better sometimes after a gig I actually do like being alone really when it's so many people. It does get a little bit tiring sometimes. Like just buying a steak right by itself and having like a beer, one beer by itself in a great bed like poster. Depression is a real thing. Killer. I think it's just because you have so much fun for so many days in a row. Yeah, but back to like you guys were saying you work so hard, you're always touring. In that sense, you're lucky that you always seem to have a gig coming up so you can look forward to the next gig and focus on that instead of say you play a gig and you don't have another one for six or ten months. That is locked out there. Yeah, absolutely. I was starting to scare myself like what am I going to do? I can only practice myself so long before I go start going absolutely crazy. But yeah man, I really don't know if it ever happens again. Touch with bless our booking agent, put it that way. He's a great man and when you guys in years time, when you reach old age, you can no longer handle the touring or be able to hold the drumsticks or hold the bass and you look back what needs to happen for you guys to say yeah, we did it. I'm perfectly happy. With how the career turned out. Wow. I'm really happy with it. Yeah. If I can see our music, our music is still going on and living organism type thing, if I can see people still listening to our music and cherishing it and literally taking a positive message from every single song, I think that'll be like one of the cool. My work is done, I'm happy, and maybe like a little gold record on the wall wouldn't be a bad thing.

Participant #1:
Yeah. Here, see? What about you? Anything too bad? No, I could die tomorrow. I'll be stoked, man. That's great. I would love to tour. I need to tour the world. If it doesn't happen, I wouldn't be bummed, I wouldn't be too bounced. We need to come to island, make it happen. Definitely. I feel like you're the type of person, you know, you're just care, free, happy go lucky. Anything could happen and it just won't tear you down. That's pretty much sums up Casey to the team. And before we move on to the last couple of questions, then, what's on the cards for the rest of the year for you guys? We've got quite a few tours booked. Not very long tours, maybe like a couple of days here, but like away from home. A weekend past a few days. Top thing, we've got really, really great shows coming. We're playing like funny, like, little art festival gigs. We've got a couple of great gigs with other great, really cool artists or name drop.

Participant #1:
This is just about us. We're not giving any extra. Okay.

Participant #1:
Obviously we've got our annual December tour, which is like our summer tour and that runs for the space of like two to three weeks. And we got already booked now some insane gigs. First is music kitchen PE Then we're going to live doing the Garden Route tour. That's the first garden tour that's coming up now. Damn, it's going to be so good. There we go. Yeah, definitely. And when can I know you've just released the album, but when can people expect new music? Will it be years long reproduction started? No, I'm pretty sure we'll run the tour the remaining of the year and then I'm pretty sure from January, once we do our big annual two, we go for normally after that we do like a two week break, I think just to chill out. Once we come back, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a bit of an itch to get together and write some jams. So I'm pretty sure we'll start doing some new stuff from early next year and then probably hopefully put it out by the middle of next year. Maybe towards the end of it, maybe. Brilliant. Brilliant. I was hoping you'd say next year. I was like, I hope these aren't guys now that are going to make us wait for another five years or something before we hear something new. Normally takes about like a two year gap. Yeah, pretty much two years. Probably. The album will be asked in two years, but there's going to be lots of little sneaky installments leading up to that. Two years. Brilliant. We'll move on to the last couple of questions so everybody gets these so you can't get off the podcast to the answer. I'm afraid if there was a band or musician from history you could see in concert for one night only, who would it be?

Participant #1:
Right. I liked a quick response. Straight. Straight, no doubt. Yeah. I'm not surprised. I don't even need to ask why.

Participant #1:
James Brown for you. I was going to say James.

Participant #1:
Yeah. I'll say James. I'll go james Brown. It has to be young James Brown. I don't want old crimpy James Brown.

Participant #1:
Like in a small club. James Brown in like a small club. 200 people. That's the James Brown. That'd be crazy. Absolutely crazy. On hell of a bigger it must have been Matt. What about James Brown and John Barnamand on drums?

Participant #1:
Like, put Prince on guitar and Jeez make a messy supergroup of, like, corruption.

Participant #1:
And the next one, then. If you had to spend 24 hours locked inside a room with any musician or artist from history, who would it be? Michael Jackson. I'd love to pick that guy's brain. That's interesting. Hello, Gary

Participant #1:
Jackson. You must have a story to tell that I'm sure. Yeah. What would you like to hope to learn from Michael Jackson? Moonwalk

Participant #1:
while playing drums.

Participant #1:
That is awesome.

Participant #1:
I'd like to say James about it. I don't think you could actually talk to James. You wouldn't be able to understand them.

Participant #1:
It's a man's world. Yeah.

Participant #1:
I'll stick with it. James Brown. Okay. And I have to ask, what would you hope to learn from James Brown once you could understand him? Add a boogie. Good answer. Good answer. No, better man to teach. You agree.

Participant #1:
That may make you think that Gary and I are better, but the opposite is actually true. You just want to be better. You'll have to make a music video. You guys dance and sort to prove to the world. Oh, yes. Interpretive. Like ribbon dancing. Oh, God. And the next one, if there was a song to appear on the soundtrack to your life that you think would sum you up, what would it be? Cool.

Participant #1:
Yes. Wow. I can't even beat that, man. Wow. Jeez, man.

Participant #1:
Exactly. I'll probably go for something like welcome to the Jungle.

Participant #1:
Definitely. If that's your answer, you're going to love the intro to this podcast and the final one to switch it around, keep you on your toes. Is there something I should have asked you guys?

Participant #1:
You should have asked me what am I drinking right now? Okay. What are you drinking?

Participant #1:
Phenomenal. Pint of

Participant #1:
nice.

Participant #1:
That is a tough one. I'm not really a lager drinker, but it probably food ways or Corona. Pretty boring. I know. I'm more of a you know, I drink probably JD and Coke or you know what's actually really nice, Jane? And now you're talking. We drink something called brandy and cook

Participant #1:
it's definitely on the carriage to get over to South Africa anyway. And the Black Label is amalgam nice, right, guys? It's been an absolute blast. I've really enjoyed chatting with you now. It was a hell of a lot of fun. Thank you so much, Brian. Likewise.

Participant #1:
I will be young I will wait for the sun I'll stay awake in the night I'm too late and to lions and strays I will be anyway I will be fine because I'll have the time to stay awake all night and go late until you come home and carve your name into stone because the world has gone crazy it's falling around us if you were here I think you'd enjoy this time calling you out by all your name I will be dead by the time you're in bed well then you're stuck now I'm shed out of luck I'll bring the room and clean the dirt out your room I'll sweep the lake. Find the bodies away oh well. So long I'll see you when I'm done and two lions and strays I will be heading away because the world has gone crazy it's falling around us and if you were here I think you'd destroy this I'm calling you out by all your name I know that time is running out there's no place for the homeless I am not afraid of why I'm afraid that you're hoping I am calling you out by all your name

Participant #1:
love is blood and bold and choking all the seasons love is blind to the slaughter that you bring love is electric. Shocking causing through your veins loved I've not noticed love has left you went away

Participant #1:
calling you out by all your name I know the times when you're so place for the homeless I am not afraid of why I'm afraid that you're hopeless I am calling you out

Participant #1:
by all your names

Participant #1:
why. Hello there. I'm about to make a prediction, and that prediction is you like podcasts. If that's true, then make your way over to the cognitive discourse where we have monologues short stories and open discussions, and every now and then I get a little ranty. If this sounds like something you're interested in, then go check us out. We're streaming on all major platforms, and hell, we're even on YouTube. New episodes out every Friday. I hope to see you there.

Participant #1:
Hey, guys. I really hope you enjoyed this episode. If you did, please rent and review us on itunes and Spotify. And if you're interested in signing up the Band Builder Academy, use the link in the show notes below and enter the code. Concerts and you'll receive 10% off. So until next time, keep rockin.

Participant #1:
Hey, what are you guys still doing here? The show is over. It's over. You can go home. Go on. We'll see you next time. We'll be here.

Participant #1:
Bye.